EP 216 Let me re-introduce myself with guest host Rosemary Lewis
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Sara Mayer: [00:00:00] Welcome to the bold goal crusher podcast for anyone looking to stop letting life get in the way and start crushing bold goals. I'm your host, Sara Mayer, and I'm thrilled to navigate this journey with you because it's time to start boldly achieving without working double time. So let's dive in.
Sara Mayer: Hello, bold goal crushers. I'm super excited about this episode today. I think you're actually going to really get a kick out of this. I heard this on someone else's episode. So I decided to do it here. You all have listened to me for over 200 episodes and I've had the opportunity to interview some amazing guests.
Sara Mayer: But I realized that many of you probably didn't go back [00:01:00] to the original intro and learn more about me and my show and why I'm here. And I'm not encouraging you to go back and listen to that because that was like take one or two before I knew what I was doing. So I decided that it was a great time to reintroduce myself and who better to have on the show than you all loved her and her husband, Corey.
Sara Mayer: So they came on the show and they were like the top episode. And so I want to have my friend, Rosemary Lewis, come on and interview me. So we're going to flip the script today. I'm going to turn over the reins to Rosemary. I'm a little nervous about this. I'm going to turn over the reins and let her ask the questions.
Sara Mayer: But if you haven't listened to her episode with her husband, Corey, it's one of the. Best episodes that we've done this year. And then she's also participating in the new year party, talking about her year and process. And she runs a program called the real estate business bestie, which if you're interested in [00:02:00] that, I'll drop that in the show link.
Sara Mayer: All right, I'm turning it over to you. I am taking the hot seat today and flipping the script. Yay.
Rosemary Lewis: Welcome to the show, Sarah.
Sara Mayer: Thanks. Thanks for having me on the show.
Rosemary Lewis: You know what? I am so happy that all of our listeners are going to get a little bit better understanding of you and who you are.
Rosemary Lewis: So I have a quick question. If you were to describe Sarah in a color word, what color would it be and why?
Sara Mayer: That's an interesting question, all right. I love how you kick it off right off from the top. I would probably use the color red. Not only is that my favorite color, it's also the color of my hair depending on the year.
Sara Mayer: And it's fiery. It's It also says caution a little bit, but it's, I think it's a bold color. If I had to pick a secondary [00:03:00] color, I'd pick orange. Okay.
Rosemary Lewis: I love it. I love it. And you know what? I think that it fits you very well. And I think this is a great transition into exactly what do you do? I know that our friends are listening to the podcast because they have some big goals they want to go after, but for your clients that you go a little bit deeper with, what does that look like and how do you come alongside them?
Sara Mayer: Oh, that's a great question. Many people have these big, bold goals that they never go after. And our listeners have, or my listeners have truly decided to step into that. And so I do work with people, clients and businesses one on one. So mostly nonprofit leaders or sole entrepreneurs looking to create digital type products like courses, memberships, that type of thing.
Sara Mayer: And I would say the one thing that they will get from me. It's pretty much a straight story. So if they ask me for advice, I'm going to give them, I don't really sugarcoat [00:04:00] things, but I'm going to give them the honest truth, but I'm also going to help them discover the path to move forward. And one of my, one of my friends now, but she started as a client, she used to say, you have this skill of figuring out the seemingly impossible.
Sara Mayer: And I do think I can do that, but I pull from a lot of different industries. For example, I was in the horse industry. And many of my entrepreneurs, I'm like, Hey, when I used to train horses, we would do this. And they're like, where did that even come from? But it applies. And so I'm really good at pulling nuggets out from places that are seemingly random, but not.
Sara Mayer: No, I
Rosemary Lewis: love that. And in the spirit of that, For yourself, like what is a bold goal that you set out in 2023 and more than whether or not you accomplished it, I'm just interested if you learned anything about your own process.
Sara Mayer: That's great.[00:05:00] I'll take a step back on that question first, because many people don't know what a bold goal is.
Sara Mayer: They're like, Oh, I want to have my house clean. And that's a goal for them in the year. And that may be a big, bold goal, depending on how your house looks. Unfortunately, I don't define that as a bold goal because bold goals should really be things that take a long time to accomplish. They may be something you can't do in an afternoon.
Sara Mayer: They're those things that at the end of your life, you're going to say, I really regret not doing that. Or I'm so glad I spent 15 years building this. And I do set goals every year and I set timelines of when I want to accomplish them, but truly my bold goals can't be accomplished in a year. So in 2024, I made a lot of pro or 2023.
Sara Mayer: I made a lot of progress towards my big, bold goals. And one of my. big goals is [00:06:00] to create a vibrant, almost an enterprise. I didn't call it that, but pretty much now that I say that out loud, it's pretty much an enterprise, a team of people who are able to support entrepreneurs and nonprofit leaders so that they can really focus on what they're good at.
Sara Mayer: And my team can help them get done all the stuff that's stopping them from achieving those goals. I made a lot of progress on that last year. I launched a new kind of brand if you will, a sub subset of my coaching and consulting clients, where we are focusing on their nonprofit work and the impact they want to make in their nonprofit.
Sara Mayer: So they can truly step into that leadership and we can help them with the strategies to actually get that done. No, I
Rosemary Lewis: love your answer to that question, because I do feel like. With you. Like we have to have a vision, right? That's your bold goal. Your bold goal. When I hear you, it sounds like it's that really the overall vision that you want to accomplish over time.
Rosemary Lewis: [00:07:00] And then year by year, we have to identify some of those tactics. So when you're working with clients, where do you see them getting most tripped up?
Sara Mayer: Honestly, the day to day, the not putting in their calendar time to actually work on their goals, because the things that are really bold and big that we want to accomplish there.
Sara Mayer: There. Usually difficult. You don't know how to get there. You're missing some resources like money. You might not even be living in the right state to do whatever you want to do. But talk to, if you want to move to Texas, talk to Rosemary. She'll help you out. She'll help you out there. But. Often, what happens is, I don't want to say life gets in the way because it doesn't.
Sara Mayer: We let it get in the way. So we know there's this really difficult thing we need to figure out for our goals. We know we really want it, but, Oh, the laundry dinger just went off or, Oh, the dishwasher has a bunch of clean dishes. And so many times people will. put [00:08:00] those things first. And then it's really difficult.
Sara Mayer: Actually, the day we're recording, this is the day before quitter's day. So the second Friday every month of every January is quitter's day. And so what will happen is once they get off the wagon, if you will, where they're not making progress towards their goals, life got in the way, kids had soccer, whatever happened, it's really difficult to get back on track.
Sara Mayer: And it's okay to have busy seasons, but That's what I see most people struggle with is when they really are striving for these big things, how to incorporate that into their daily life so they are making progress.
Rosemary Lewis: Yeah. So when life starts life and how are you still going off of that after that thing that you really want in your life?
Rosemary Lewis: Yeah, exactly. Now that makes so, so much sense to me out of curiosity how does one get into this work where you are helping everyone from your everyday person, which all of us are right. [00:09:00] CEOs and nonprofits. How did you get into this space where you were helping literally one person go from one level to the next?
Sara Mayer: It really, that's an interesting question and I don't think I've ever shared this on this show. I've shared it on other people's podcasts and people are always really fascinated. It started by this. I had a boss who was really. And he was like, Hey, go figure out what the top performers are doing and put together a training for the people who are struggling.
Sara Mayer: And yeah, have a good day. That was the assignment. So it's like really vague. And me being me, I was like I'm going to go sit and watch the top performers work. And so I did that and I was flabbergasted because I couldn't believe that these were like the top people in our company crushing goals, maxing out bonus.
Sara Mayer: They were the least productive. I'm [00:10:00] not kidding. They were the least productive people on the planet. They were the ones burning popcorn in the break room, throwing Nerf balls around. I could not figure it out. And so I had a data analyst and I was like, I want a full workup on these guys. And they happened to be all men out of 250.
Sara Mayer: The top 10 percent was all men. And what I learned is they actually were not the top performers. When I aggregated how many hours they were working, they were actually the top workers. They were at work more time than anybody else. And when I aggregated that data, they were bottom to middle. Oh, wow. And they were working on Christmas, Thanksgiving, and I'll never forget this data analyst.
Sara Mayer: He was like real tall, looked like Shaggy from Scooby Doo, and he came flying in my office like he discovered the treasure. He's you'll never believe this. They're just out working everybody. They're working 60 to 80 hours a week. And I think if you're listening to this, you could probably picture some of [00:11:00] these salespeople in your head, like the people who are always at work, always on their phone.
Sara Mayer: The reality is they had no life and so this is why we had high turnover and I could go in and talk about that for hours, but I went and sat with the people who were actually only working 40 hours and watch them work. And some of the really cool things that I learned were they came into work every day.
Sara Mayer: They had a big goal that they wanted to achieve. Maybe not that day. Maybe not that month. Maybe not that year. They had this big goal they wanted to achieve. Every day they set little goals. They focus on the things that were revenue producing. I know you, you probably talk about that with some of your agents.
Sara Mayer: Like they didn't get caught up in the minutiae. Honestly, they were rarely in email and they picked up the phone when there was drama. Instead of responding to the email, you'd be like, Hey, they were very relational. And so to shorten the story a [00:12:00] little, but I created the training that I was told to create.
Sara Mayer: And then people started asking me. To do trainings for their husband's wife's company. They're like, my wife left her job to pick up the kids and now I'm paying somebody to pick up the kids because she built a company that doesn't allow her to pick up the kids. Yeah. So I started doing that. That's how I got into it.
Sara Mayer: And it, it was just my chance. And it now has become probably the topic I talk about the most.
Rosemary Lewis: That is fascinating for me. So when you think about the work that you get to do, what are just some like habits? Do you find yourself saying the same things to people? Hey, work on these two or three couple things.
Rosemary Lewis: Anytime you are working towards a goal, where would somebody start if you were giving them advice?
Sara Mayer: The first place is to really take stock in what your goals are. January just rolled around and people have this clock and they're like, Oh, got to set [00:13:00] goals. It's January. Oh, somebody already posted there.
Sara Mayer: I'm late. It's January 10th and I haven't set my goals. And I'm late. So often the goals that are set are not truly what you want. So that's the, always the place I start of, why are these your goals? And I dig deeper and deeper. And sometimes how can we make them bigger? And sometimes how can we make these more manageable or, and stuff like that.
Sara Mayer: So that, that's where I start. And then I go look at their calendar and it sounds so simple, but. calendar and to do list. Many times they have these goals. I'm like, I don't see a single to do on this list that has anything to do with that. And I definitely don't see a calendar appointment. So that's really where I would start if we were working on goal work.
Sara Mayer: Yeah.
Rosemary Lewis: No I definitely love that. I've had someone say to me before, you have to make sure your daily activities match the goal. And if not, you got to switch one up, right? So you have to be either [00:14:00] willing to switch your daily activities or you have to be willing to adjust the goal.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. And then what resources, I'd also add, what resources are you putting towards that?
Sara Mayer: Because if your goal truly is not. Easy. Do you have a coach? Do you have a mastermind group that you're in? That's helping you to get to that goal, to break down the things you don't have, skillset, resources, maybe even time so that you're, are you hiring somebody to work on that goal? Cause you don't have time.
Sara Mayer: And if you're not putting any resources towards it, including money and time. Yeah. Is this something you really do want? Exactly. Got to put your money where your mouth is. Yeah.
Rosemary Lewis: Yeah. No. So our listeners, we know you professionally now from what you just shared with us and from the podcast, but let's talk about you personally.
Rosemary Lewis: How do you balance the work that you do? In terms of helping all of your [00:15:00] clients get to their goals with just your personal life. Are you always on? Are you that friend that makes everyone be on time and we have all these boxes to check or are you a little bit more laid back? Tell me how you balance your business version of you and your personal version of you.
Sara Mayer: That's a great question. I do work with a lot of clients too and my friends and clients will say, Oh, you're always on Facebook or you're always. Posting or whatever. And I laugh because I'm like rarely on Facebook. It appears that I'm on Facebook or anything like that. Cause I built these systems into my work and even in my personal life, I've built systems so that I don't have to be available or on all the time.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. And I think that's really important. There, there are. A week ago into a bajillion. Tactics to, to be able to streamline your life, but also your [00:16:00] business and. I do that. I'm very regimented from Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, because I want to goof off Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. And so if you come to me on a Monday, I'm working something, some lists, I got something going on and I'm not really an email as often as people may think, because I have a system.
Sara Mayer: I have times that I work on email. And so I do that. So that I can have more freedom. So I, and I think people think, Oh if you're so scheduled, then you have no freedom. And it's actually the opposite.
Rosemary Lewis: I agree with that. I agree. It's like when you go on a, when you implement a budget, you find money that you didn't know you had because you had money going to subscriptions and you're still subscribed to this.
Rosemary Lewis: When you moved on Apple music and things like that in the same way with your time, when you actually schedule it out, you find time to do other things that you really enjoy doing and that you want to do. Yeah. [00:17:00]
Sara Mayer: Yeah. And I'm a big proponent too. This is also a life hack. I stopped setting hour long meetings because when you set an hour long meeting, the meeting's going to take an hour minimum and.
Sara Mayer: I just started sitting 45 minutes and half hour meetings. And the reality is most of the business could be done in that amount of time. No, I love that. I love
Rosemary Lewis: that. So on your Thursday through Saturday, what are you doing for fun? What are you doing?
Sara Mayer: Oh, great question. I think most people know I'm obsessed with my COVID clinger dog, Parker.
Sara Mayer: So Parker and I love, there's a dog park when I'm in Chicago, there's a hundred acre dog park. We love to go there. It's off leash. And so we go traipsing through the woods, sometimes the mud. And sometimes we're on Tik TOK live and I actually almost have fallen like six times into a river. Yeah, that's a good time.
Sara Mayer: Join us on Tik TOK for those. So I like to do that. And then I'm a big avid [00:18:00] reader. So on my free time, I'll read more novels and stuff like that. And then I also read a lot of self help and business books. Oh, what's
Rosemary Lewis: your favorite novel you've read in
Sara Mayer: the last year? So I'm currently on the JK Rowling Where she wrote under a pen name, Robert Galbraith, the Comer and Strike series.
Sara Mayer: So I'm currently on that
Rosemary Lewis: right now. Okay. So do you like to hold the books in your hand or your audiobook person?
Sara Mayer: All of the above. I'm not a Kindle person. I'll say that. I do have Kindle. I don't love it. But I do, when I'm working, if I'm working, I might turn on Like a romance type novel or something like that.
Sara Mayer: Something I don't really have to pay attention to the book I'll do on Audible. For my book club, everything's hard book highlight. I'm like the worst, like you never want to book after me because I've destroyed it. I've put post it notes all over it and everything.
Rosemary Lewis: Yeah, I had a friend [00:19:00] recently. I was at a place and I had a book I was giving him.
Rosemary Lewis: It was actually the big leap was the book I was reading. It was in my hand. And he said let me look at it. Let me see. Let me thumb through it. And he saw all of my markings and my dog ears. He said, Oh, I'm never going to lend you a book. I said, I didn't ask you for it. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm with you.
Rosemary Lewis: Are you a journalist?
Sara Mayer: Oh, yeah. I journal every day. And then I have this really cool book. Actually, I have it right here. Oh, I don't know if you can see that. It's called one, one line a day, a five year history. And what's really cool is it has a date and then you put the year 2022 and you write one line and then that same day for five years, you're going to write one line.
Rosemary Lewis: Oh, that is cool. I do something similar, but it's not in a book. I learned it from a, I learned it from a book, shocker. But in this, I do what's called story of the day. So I keep a Google sheet. [00:20:00] So I have a tab and every day my alarm goes off. At 9 p. m. when it's time for me to go to bed and I write one sentence, just one thing from the day.
Rosemary Lewis: So something similar. And I love it. Do you love that journal where you just see the progression of yeah, your days have progressed over the years.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. And it's really interesting because if you can't tell I'm a little nasally, I'm a little sick. A year ago yesterday I was also sick. So I don't know what it is, but about this time.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. So there's a lot of things too that like I've seen, like obviously holidays like 4th of July. Oh, I was doing this on 4th of July, but there's a lot of wins in some of the days that are insignificant, like not a holiday or anything like that. So it's a really cool way to track it. And I love your one story a day.
Rosemary Lewis: Yeah, I started doing it March 20th and I was just telling somebody the very first day that I started, I read this book and I'm [00:21:00] like, I'm going to start on this day. Unfortunately, one of my friends, her husband passed away unexpectedly and I was, oh yes, and I was at her house to see her because it was very unexpected and her little boy walked up to her while I was sitting there.
Rosemary Lewis: And he said, mom, I know there are going to be a lot of bumps ahead in the road, but we're going to flatten them out together. And that was my first story of the day. I was like, I wonder, and it's amazing when you go looking and I know you understand when you go looking for things, you will be surprised how rich every single day is.
Rosemary Lewis: Yes.
Sara Mayer: Yes, exactly. Yeah.
Rosemary Lewis: So speaking of that, let's take it back to childhood, Sarah, tell us a little bit about when you were growing up, what is maybe your fondest memory with your family when you were growing up as a kid?
Sara Mayer: Honestly, my fondest memory is always around Thanksgiving. It sounds so well, maybe it doesn't sound strange.
Sara Mayer: I just love [00:22:00] Thanksgiving. We used to have Thanksgiving at my my parents home and everyone would come from my dad's family and sometimes my mom's family. It just depended on the day. And we like maybe you can relate the cranberry sauce that is like jelly in the can ocean spray with the lines.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. Yeah. Super sweet cranberry sauce. Yes, that's what we ate, and it was not cut it was Literally squeezed out of the can and just sitting on a dish. That was how cranberry sauce it actually, that is how cranberry sauce is designed to me. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. And so my fondest memory is when one of my cousins, some of my cousins are significantly older than me.
Sara Mayer: He married into this family and his wife brought this bowl. Of cranberry sauce. And [00:23:00] so that was the first signal that maybe we should have maybe done a little more vetting on this situation. And it was this huge bowl. I didn't understand. And of course it had this little Tupperware thing on it.
Sara Mayer: And then she took it off and she was so proud of this cranberry sauce. Almost my baby. And it had full berries in it and sticks like sticks from the cranberry. And it was not super sweet. Cranberries are actually bitter. Yeah, they're very tart.
Rosemary Lewis: It's not wonderful.
Sara Mayer: And Of course, we're at this big, long table of kids.
Sara Mayer: We're at the kid's table, but my cousin and his wife didn't fit at the big table. So technically still at the kid's table. And there was a lot of what is that? And of course she went around and put it on everybody's plate. And he gave us the look like you better try it. And then nobody was eating it.
Sara Mayer: And then he finally was [00:24:00] like, look, I love you, honey, but you're never bringing that. Ever again, like I'm going to get so much crap. And so then he asked my mom, who was hosting Thanksgiving, do you have the ocean spray? And she said, no, because I don't even remember they're not married anymore, but I don't even remember.
Sara Mayer: We don't, she was bringing it and we just were like you ruined it. Maybe that's why they're not married anymore. But
Rosemary Lewis: now let me tell you what's funny is when you said that she brought the big bowl of cranberry sauce, I thought to myself, Oh, I bet that didn't work out.
Sara Mayer: It was like, I don't know.
Sara Mayer: What happens, but no, so anyway, every year now around Thanksgiving, this picture comes up and there's like this thing of cranberry sauce in the can, just out of the can. And
Rosemary Lewis: so listen, I'll both go crushes. If you're dating somebody before you bring them to Thanksgiving, [00:25:00] you need to have the conversation to see what's the cranberry sauce situation.
Rosemary Lewis: So that you can learn a whole meal if you don't have
Sara Mayer: the right cranberry sauce and the stuffing. I heard also I guess it's called dressing. If it's not in the turkey,
Rosemary Lewis: Some people are stuffing. Some people are addressing, I'm addressing
Sara Mayer: and you need to have that conversation as well.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. These are, it's okay. It's okay to have the bowl, but you also need to have the can,
Rosemary Lewis: you need to have options. Exactly. Exactly. You need to have those conversations. Talk about politics and how many kids you want to have later, but get the cranberry sauce out the way. Yep. I love it. So here is the thing you have had this podcast over 200 episodes.
Rosemary Lewis: What is your goal? What direction do you want? for bold goal crushers and where do you see it down the line?
Sara Mayer: That's a great question. I love talking about goals, discussing goals and really meeting with guests who have crushed their goals. And so I truly do hope that the podcast is an [00:26:00] inspiration for everyone listening.
Sara Mayer: But I hope it's not only that. I hope that it inspires you to then take the action and then to share your goals and to move from just being a, maybe a passive listener to an active listener. I view it like working a book. Like you can read a book and say, Oh, that was great. The seven habits of highly effective people.
Sara Mayer: And if you never do any of it, it's not like an osmosis. So it doesn't like, Oh, now I'm an effective person. Read the book. So I hope that you actually take action on some of the strategies. And so my goal is for the listeners to take action. And then as you're working through your goals or building your business, don't hesitate to reach out because I do have an entire team of people who are willing to help you when you're stuck.
Sara Mayer: Like we don't talk about that a lot on the podcast, but. I'm a consultant and I'm here to help [00:27:00] you achieve those goals and really design the life that you want and business that you want to have. So I hope you go down that journey going from just a passive listener to an active listener to truly stepping into your goals.
Sara Mayer: No, I
Rosemary Lewis: love that. I may be putting you on the spot here, but if you had to name three of your favorite episodes that you have done. You may have to go back and link them later so that the listeners can get to them, but just three that stand out to you, what would those
Sara Mayer: be? For guest episodes, your episode with your husband was amazing.
Sara Mayer: Like you guys just have such a great vibe and I loved how you guys don't have to listen to this episode. I'll link it anyway, but I love how Corey was just like, no, this is how it is. And so that I don't remember the topic, but I remember that we got a lot of really, I do know we got a lot of listeners and a lot of feedback, but that episode was a great [00:28:00] episode to really The episode really came alive for a lot of people to think about how to work together.
Sara Mayer: And I think you and Corey do a great job of balancing each other. And I do remember how he's a little more, he's a little more adventurous and will take more risks and you are not, and he was able to pull you along a little bit. Yeah. That was a great episode. The other one that I, I've actually done twice, which I love is if you're thinking about creating a digital business, I've interviewed Amy Porterfield twice, and both of those conversations were really eyeopening.
Sara Mayer: But I think the biggest part of those combo combos where she was working for somebody else and had this big dream and. When she drove away, she was scared to death and many times when you're trying to create something big or do something big, [00:29:00] you have to let go of who you were in the past. And it can be really scary.
Rosemary Lewis: So scary. It's so scary. And one of my mantras is do a scare because I think that sometimes we wait for that scary feeling to go away. But what we really have to do is we have to hold on to some courage and do it, even though we're scared, especially when you're being led in that
Sara Mayer: direction. Yeah. And then the book club episodes.
Sara Mayer: Those have been amazing. So we do I do a book review once a month. Sometimes I'll have a guest on. It depends on the book. The 12 week year book club episode was last January and I'll link that one in the chat. And that was a really good episode. Yeah, I
Rosemary Lewis: heard that one. That one. Yeah. Okay, before we go, just a couple of rapid fire questions.
Rosemary Lewis: Let's see, what you have in common with listeners. So I'm just going to ask you a couple questions and I want the fastest answer that you have. Ready? Yep. Okay, peanut butter, creamy or crunchy?
Sara Mayer: Oh, crunchy [00:30:00] all the way. All
Rosemary Lewis: right, pizza or
Sara Mayer: tacos? Pizza. I could live off. Let me, I have to add a caveat to that.
Sara Mayer: It can not be this cardboard New York fold in half junk Chicago style pizza with butter crust.
Rosemary Lewis: Thank you. So what's your favorite Chicago pizza place? Side note
Sara Mayer: question Lou Melnati's.
Rosemary Lewis: Okay. Okay. I I'm a Chicagoan as well. Yeah. And, Oh, I hope you don't put me off the podcast from being the host, but deep dish is not my
Sara Mayer: favorite.
Sara Mayer: Oh, we're going to edit this out.
Rosemary Lewis: I like it. Don't get me wrong. I like it. But I feel like Chicago thing for us is undefeated. It's like we're the cubs in the
Sara Mayer: socks, it's two things. Maybe you don't know this. Now I'm going to tell you this. I could do a whole pizza podcast. It's the butter crust, first of all, putting butter on the crust, but two, it's the Lake Michigan water.
Sara Mayer: So they soak the dough in Lake Michigan in water, [00:31:00] Lake Michigan water, cause it's here. And when they've tried to go into other markets like Arizona, the pizza didn't taste right. And they figured out it was the water. So now they truck the water down to Arizona. Oh my gosh. Okay. That's something.
Rosemary Lewis: I love Illuminati thin crust.
Rosemary Lewis: I wonder if they soak the water on the thin crust too.
Sara Mayer: I used to work there. That was my first job. Oh
Rosemary Lewis: okay, speaking of Chicago
Sara Mayer: Cubs or socks. Oh, white socks all the way. Don't even talk to me about those other
Rosemary Lewis: people. Okay. Okay. What about trying to think of an up, Target or Walmart?
Sara Mayer: I, this is controversial. I will go Wal I will, I actually wouldn't go to either of those places, but I would go to Walmart over Target. Target is a wallet suck.
Rosemary Lewis: It is. I agree with you there, sister. It is definitely a wallet suck. And especially now that they put Starbucks in there. It can be a whole, it can deter you from your goals bold, precious.
Rosemary Lewis: So watch out those [00:32:00] target trips. Okay. And then here is the last one. Are you a night owl or early
Sara Mayer: riser? Oh, night owl all the way. Actually, my best working times are like seven to 9 PM. And I actually had a boss tell me once I realized a long time ago, if I gave you something to work on at 4 PM, I'd get a better.
Sara Mayer: Product than I, if I gave it to you at nine or 10, yep. That's correct.
Rosemary Lewis: That's also, do you have a morning routine? Since you, so since you are more of a night owl, does that mean that you tend to wake up a little later or is that just you like to work later?
Sara Mayer: Yeah, I wake up later. So I typically go to bed at midnight, maybe a little later than that.
Sara Mayer: And I don't like to get up before nine. Okay. And I will not take a meeting before 10. Okay.
Rosemary Lewis: You are very similar to my husband in that respect where I'm the opposite.
Sara Mayer: Oh, I [00:33:00] feel for you. That's gotta be rough.
Rosemary Lewis: It is. Yes. The difference for us. Yes, that is rough. But I am the opposite. Sarah, this was wonderful for me.
Rosemary Lewis: I think it was wonderful for the bold gold crushers just to learn a little bit more about you and I'm pretty sure they know, but let's just remind them for that person who wants to go from the passive listener. So the active listener to now raising their hand to say, you know what, I would love for your team to come beside me to help me actually get towards these big, hairy, audacious goals.
Rosemary Lewis: How can they get in
Sara Mayer: contact with you? Oh, that's a great question. So I do have on my website and I'll post a link in the chat as well for a free or show notes, not chat, not on a live session. I feel like I'm in your living room, but Anyway I do have a link for a free consult and you can always find me, of course, on my free Facebook group as well, The Bold Goal Crushers.
Sara Mayer: Just feel free [00:34:00] to reach out. I'd love to connect and see how we might help you. Awesome.
Rosemary Lewis: It was my pleasure. Thank you for letting me sit in the interview seat to interview you. And hey, Bold Crushers, we will check out on the next episode.
Sara Mayer: Thank you so much for the interview today. I couldn't think of anybody more that I trusted with this.
Sara Mayer: This episode. And so I really appreciate our friendship. We, for you guys listening, we actually met in a program called digital course academy and it at nighttime, I, we were in accountability group and I ended up helping her with her first launch. And so we've been friends ever since and hang out on Voxer.
Sara Mayer: And we actually are going to meet in real life at the end of the month, which I'm excited about that
Rosemary Lewis: too. Yep. I'm excited. I'm excited. Maybe I need to find you some Lake Michigan soaked pizza.
Sara Mayer: I'll bring my own water. I don't know. That's awkward. [00:35:00] All right, bold gold crushers. It's time to crush your goals and everything that gets in the way.
Sara Mayer: So you don't have to work double time. So let's get to it.
Sara Mayer: Thank you for tuning into the bold goal crusher podcast where we crush goals and everything that gets in the way. I always love to support my community.
Sara Mayer: I look forward to seeing you crush your goals this year.
