Ep224 The Transformative Power of Reiki for Growth & Well Being with Guest Lisa Brandis
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Sara Mayer: [00:00:00] Welcome to the bold goal crusher podcast for anyone looking to stop letting life get in the way and start crushing bold goals. I'm your host, Sara Mayer, and I'm thrilled to navigate this journey with you because it's time to start boldly achieving without working double time. So let's dive in.
Sara Mayer: Hello, bold goal crushers. I'm super excited about this episode today. I think that this is perfect timing for a topic because I've been receiving a lot of comments about February and what comes with February and what's coming up. So I'm very excited to introduce you to my guests. So please meet Lisa Brandis.
Sara Mayer: She's a trailblazer in the realm of energy healing. You [00:01:00] see why I think this is a good episode for February. She's celebrated globally as the first ever intuitive Reiki master and teacher with over 20 years of experience hailing from Perth, Western Australia. Lisa is not only a visionary founder, but she's also an accomplished author and the driving force behind intuitive Reiki international.
Sara Mayer: We want to talk more about that and her Institute has become synonymous with innovation in Reiki training, leaving an inevitable mark on the global landscape as a respected authority. She is passionately, she passionately inspires and educates individuals. Emphasizing the transformative power of intuition and Reiki practice to make a meaningful impact on personal growth and wellbeing.
Sara Mayer: I am so excited to have you here, Lisa. So many of my guests have been [00:02:00] talking about what they're feeling this month and how they're maybe a little bit drained.
Lisa Brandis: Yeah, it's quite common, isn't it? To have, the Christmas period, which everything winds up and slows down. And then, there's all these big visions and expectations that we put on ourselves and big goals.
Lisa Brandis: And, everyone's creating a bit of a buzz. And then we get to February and it's Oh no, now I've got to actually action and implement some of this big vision and these big goals that I'm creating. So yeah, it can be a bit of a struggle just managing that expectation that we put on ourselves.
Lisa Brandis: As entrepreneurs and, business owners, but also yeah just. I don't know, I'm a bit of a visionary, so I struggle on the strategic planning. I tend to just action take and, run into things and head, head on into projects and things and then halfway through go, Oh, I'm a bit lost and, need to pull back a bit.
Lisa Brandis: So yeah, intuition can play a huge part in getting really [00:03:00] clear before we set about to minimize some of the struggles we have. Yeah.
Sara Mayer: And I love that you brought up that it's easy to get caught up in the holidays and then you set these goals and then February comes around, life gets in the way, kids got to go to soccer, whatever happens, you are having a heat wave over there.
Sara Mayer: So you're stuck in the house. And so sometimes those expectations we put on ourselves or goals seem so far away when those things are happening. So I'd love to hear about how did you get into this? Cause I know there's a story
Lisa Brandis: there. Oh, it's quite interesting cause I used to work for a foundation.
Lisa Brandis: So over here in Australia, we, I worked for Starlight Children's Foundation, which is probably equivalent to your Make A Wish Foundation. I was I was very young. I was in my early twenties and I landed the job of being. Captain Starlight. So my, I'm a total empath, very aware of spirit and had [00:04:00] psychic kind of experiences when I was younger.
Lisa Brandis: Shut it down through my teens, like most of us, when we think it's all a bit too weird and we just want to fit in and be normal. So I close it all to spirit. And through a series of events working at Starlight, I was introduced to the difficulties and the hardship of seeing, children getting really ill and families that were just so beautiful, just experiencing such trauma both physically, mentally, spiritually, and just having this big, why is this happening?
Lisa Brandis: I had a really basic, You Kind of world view of, if I'm good and I'm a good girl and do good things will happen. It was like this way of just, be kind. I'm a bit of a people pleaser. I was raised to, be honest and have integrity and. As some kind of superficial way of that means life will be easier for me and those I love.
Lisa Brandis: And then all of a sudden I was thrown into a bit of chaos when one of the children at Starlight that I'd gotten to know [00:05:00] over a nine year period and nine month period, sorry. And much to my mum's advice, cause I was still living at home. She's don't get too close. I don't think this job is going to be good for you, Lisa.
Lisa Brandis: Cause you know, when. The kids pass away as this happens, unfortunately, and, you're in a hospital environment. So it's they're there because they're critically ill. She could envision that would be difficult for me and it was, so I was fine when we were playing games and doing all the fun stuff, which was my role.
Lisa Brandis: I was there to entertain and. Brighten their lives and make them laugh. And, but it was, yeah, it was one little girl in particular that kind of climbed into my heart. And I also saw myself and my family represented in hers. Her mom and dad were beautiful, her sister. And I think for me, it just seemed so unfair when she died.
Lisa Brandis: And I had. a big argument with what I perceived as being God. Because I'm like, this doesn't make sense. I was angry and and it was through a [00:06:00] process of, Emotional burnout and also from running. I ran a Starlight Express room. So I had all the volunteers to manage. I was had quite a lot of responsibility on my shoulders.
Lisa Brandis: That long story short, I ended up having a bit of a mental breakdown. So it was just, it was burnout is what it would be diagnosed as and. I happen to be in my auntie's house in Sydney. I went over there for a holiday working kind of trip. And while I was there, I was a bit miserable. And the, the emotions just when you get away from home, they just bubbled up and started surfacing.
Lisa Brandis: And one of her friends was there and said, can I give you Reiki? And I'd never heard of it. And I said, yeah, sure, sure. Anything, whatever I'll try anything at this point. And she sat me down in a lounge room just on a chair like I'm sitting now and she laid her hands on my shoulders and she just with gentle Reiki is a gentle healing touch.
Lisa Brandis: Just by laying your hands on my head, there was something about [00:07:00] stopping, slowing everything down and being embraced by love, by this loving tenderness that came from just another woman that I didn't know very well, but it was just. This energy that I didn't understand at the time, but to give you some I tried to intellectualize, what it did to me, but if you could imagine taps being opened underneath the soles of your feet and all the stress just pouring out of my body and in its place being just held and embraced by this loving energy, I felt that.
Lisa Brandis: that peace and that nurtured love for the first time in a long time. And back then I was very highly critical of myself, used to beat myself up and certainly wasn't nice in my internal dialogue, very bit of a perfectionist. And the greatest friend to everyone else, but not so much myself back then.
Lisa Brandis: And I was suffering insomnia. So that first night I went to bed, not really knowing what to [00:08:00] expect and wake up in the morning just thinking, Oh my God, I've slept all night. And then. The, when something's in your path and it's meant to be, there was this electrified feeling of, Oh my God, I want to know more, this is amazing.
Lisa Brandis: What on earth is this? And then when I went back to work arrived in Perth, was introduced to a new volunteer who, when I asked her what she does, or, tell me about yourself, she tells me she's a Reiki healer. Now, this is, it's
Sara Mayer: like the universe is sending you. And I'm like,
Lisa Brandis: Oh, great. Grabbed her and ran her upstairs and said, can you give me Reiki?
Lisa Brandis: And I became I just couldn't get enough of it. And different person, different place. exact same feeling of just complete expansiveness and just, I just entered into this surrendered, what we would probably associate now as being mindful and being in a meditative kind of space where all that in the mind just took a back seat and just.
Lisa Brandis: Kind of chilled out [00:09:00] and I equate it now as Reiki enhances this surrender experience where we lean back into the seat of our soul where peace resides and we're so used to being in this dominant mind where we get so consumed by our emotions and consumed by what's going on around us that we forget that there's this balance.
Lisa Brandis: Thanks. Observer aspect or the spiritual aspect, or our soul or high self guides and all, it, that is also a part of our life experience that we can learn from, connect with, receive love from instantaneously without needing it from others. And ultimately it just enhances all of our relationships when we can come to others from a place of love And from that, to me that.
Lisa Brandis: Surrendered experience. Sorry. It's a long story. I get. Yeah.
Sara Mayer: No, it's great. I think first of all, sorry for your loss. I, if you've listened to my podcast or even if you haven't my [00:10:00] brother, I lost my brother to leukemia. So that conversation that you had, that argument you had with your perceived God, I also have had as well.
Sara Mayer: There's so much to unpack in your story. I think that one of the things that really stands out to me that resonates, I know that resonates with me, but also with a lot of listeners is that we try as women to have it all put together and to be a great friend, a great mother, a great family member, and do all these things.
Sara Mayer: But you said something that said, I was a great friend, but not to myself.
Lisa Brandis: Yeah. Yeah. And I see this time and time again, with so many of my clients. And so many of my students, I've been teaching, like you said, for nearly two decades now, so that the biggest mindset hack, for want of a better word is understanding or recognizing that we're not our thoughts and that when we get our mind to work [00:11:00] for us instead of against us, meaning when we.
Lisa Brandis: When we step into the surrendered state, which is taking that observer view of what we're thinking and how we're feeling. And to me, this is more when I move into the spiritual work with people, it unlocks. A freedom because we suddenly learn how to become free from who we think we are, or who we've been conditioned to believe we are.
Lisa Brandis: And for me, I was an extreme warrior. I used to be stressed all the time very hard on myself. And I just thought that was the way I was very sensitive, but. Sensitive back then to me was like a curse. It wasn't a positive thing. It was like, mom would throw it or, you're so sensitively.
Lisa Brandis: So it was, because I was emotional, I felt the world. And I didn't realize that the reason I'm so empathic. And the reason I feel so much is because I was a natural born lightworker. So on the flip side of it, when we start to learn more about love. And [00:12:00] how we can make a positive contribution on, on the planet, but most importantly, within our own life and our family and our loved ones, we understand that sensitivity is actually a gift.
Lisa Brandis: It allows us to feel and amplify love just as we can also feel and amplify stress, but stress and negative, negative energy or thoughts, thinking, processes, programs, emotions are very low in vibration, dense, don't go very far energetically. So it has a limitation, which is good for us because when we're being hard on ourselves or, it doesn't have a huge impact energetically yet when you tap into love and you can sit in a session with someone from an open hearted place of just wanting to nurture them and trust that everyone has within them, the solutions that they need, but you're bringing all of yourself to that space and all of yourself, meaning you're connected to your [00:13:00] soul and open to your spiritual wisdom and Intuition and guides and angels or whatever you want to call that.
Lisa Brandis: Extra element, the miracle the opportunity for change and transformation can happen instantaneously right before your eyes because, and we don't know, we don't fully understand how or why, but there's just some power that comes from that space of love that revolutionizes people it heals, it, people release Shame that some, some of the clients I've worked with have carried for years, like for some types it's decades and deep shames hidden.
Lisa Brandis: They don't reveal it to anyone, but when people feel, and it has to be an authentic thing, you can't fake it. Like it's, you either have done your work and I'm still doing it because it never stops. But when you've. learn to love yourself to a certain level, you naturally have that ability to influence [00:14:00] others.
Lisa Brandis: And when they feel that natural resonance, they know they're in a safe place. And quite often they will share and reveal and be met with love and met with acceptance and met with, we all have. We've all done things we wish we hadn't, and we've all, we've all got things buried that, when we just bring it to the surface and allow ourselves to find acceptance, we heal and healing is.
Lisa Brandis: It's not because we're broken, it's because we're human, like we're human, we're, this is life, we're here to fall and, and that is where the greatest growth comes from. So it's it's just been the most incredible journey and I continue on it because no two clients are the same, no two students are the same, no two classes are the same because when you work from that basis of intuition, you're naturally organically moving with a group and sharing and.
Lisa Brandis: And learning. And it's just, it's this co creation with the universe. That's [00:15:00] it's hard to believe that people don't trust their intuition and their psychic abilities and their soul. And that as a society and a culture, we think that's weird. Like we think that's weird. I think
Sara Mayer: it's too, because you brought this up about how, as a child, you wanted to fit in I think so many things as children, like we asked children, what do you want to be when you grow up? Like they even know, but when they do tell us, they'll say stuff like, I want to be an author. And it's Oh you're not good at writing. And so yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the stuff that comes out of people's mouths.
Lisa Brandis: And so we push. That's exactly what I had. And I was an author and oh my God, that play on creating so many difficulties with getting to the end of that goal and actually writing
Sara Mayer: my book. Yeah. But I love how you talked about really getting back to that core and loving yourself to then help others.
Sara Mayer: Because I think there's so many times where we are taught not to trust our [00:16:00] intuition, like we should do this. Oh, is that the smartest thing to do? Or, Oh, have you thought about this? Or, Oh, you should listen to your teacher. My, I was it. Just a little side note. I wanted to be a horse trainer and I went to my counselor at school and she said that's not a real job and I'm like but that lady who's the horse trainer who pays me every month, that's her job.
Sara Mayer: Thankfully, I had enough gumption to be like I'm not coming to you anymore, but I
Lisa Brandis: go back to that. Two shooting widely is something that I lean on a lot, because people are very quick to offer opinions and we do, we take them literally and we, it slows our progress where we're hard enough on ourselves, let alone having other people with limiting beliefs, squashing our passions way, way too often.
Lisa Brandis: So you
Sara Mayer: talk a lot about intuition, like how obviously you went from being somebody who. was a [00:17:00] learner to now you're a teacher of this practice. How does somebody really learn to lean into their intuition or what does that even look
Lisa Brandis: like? To me, it was. a natural desire to want to experience that state that I felt when I received Reiki.
Lisa Brandis: So for me, I've got a questioning mind. I'm always asking why, how I want to understand. And I wanted to understand the spiritual with my logical mind. I wanted, it to not just be this mystical thing I didn't get. I, really wanted the answers. So that led me on the typical spiritual it was like, there was this.
Lisa Brandis: I feel like before I met Jacqueline, my Reiki master, because we always learn Reiki through a master that's been there before you and I went on a two year spiritual mentorship with her, but my mind was fixed. And it was like, when I learned Reiki, the whole world opened up and there was this universe on the other side and it [00:18:00] felt to me like everything I've been taught, it's just been blown out of the water.
Lisa Brandis: There's this whole other reality that is based on the imagination, which is interesting because we've been taught and conditioned to really rely heavily on our logic. And our analytical mind, which is our ego, essentially, which is fine, we need that we need a like this, we have to embrace and love the mind and the ego, but it is primarily fear based versus this other aspect of spirit that we connect through our imagination.
Lisa Brandis: So we've all been taught. That imagination is not real. So they set up the challenge, right? Because we're told it's not real. You're making it up. It's imagined. Yet, when I went into that world of imagination, I recognized that where I struggled at school and I'm probably, I know I'm ADHD undiagnosed, but I've got a mind that thinks differently to others.
Lisa Brandis: I found that was my intelligence. It was my capacity and [00:19:00] ability to connect into that imagination. I was an actor when I was younger, but. I loved and was passionate about what I could sense and feel and see using clairvoyance. So clairvoyance is inner seeing with the inner mind. And what I realized and what I learned as a psychic medium, when I went on that journey to discover how to tap in And interpret the messages I was getting, what I realized is that we use our imagination in order to connect with spirit.
Lisa Brandis: So we have to unlock that belief in the programming, which is just education. It's just what we've been taught. It doesn't mean it's correct. That because it's made up, doesn't mean it's valid. I'm like, yeah, we listened to that in a critic, that in a batch. No one questions that. No one goes, I shouldn't trust this person that's pounding on me and telling me all these awful things.
Lisa Brandis: What about yet? There's love that comes in that's kind and gentle and nurturing and, passive and easy. That's the aspect we question [00:20:00] because it's just not normal for us yet. I think, wow, isn't that interesting as a concept that Something that's loving. We think, oh, I can't trust it, , it's too, it sounds too good to be true, right?
Lisa Brandis: We've got all the cliches that go with it that undermine the very thing that is, there to help us to accept all the ups and downs of life and to breathe peace and kindness and love, and so for me. In the early days, I had the inner critic that was, very like everyone else's, and then I was introduced to my spirit guide, my spirit guide came in the form of a female opposite to me in my mind, it was where I'd be critical and hard on myself.
Lisa Brandis: And I'd ask Anja, Angie back then was my guides name, I'd ask her what she felt and she'd give me a different perspective. One that came from love. So then I learned more how to connect and tune into my God. And I just ask her all the time, her opinion on things, cause it was [00:21:00] way nicer than mine.
Lisa Brandis: And then I developed that relationship where it was really just setting up, internal communication that was. The thing with your guidance is that it knows who you are and what you want. And it knows everything about you versus we go outside of ourselves to check with everyone else. And quite often, we get misled or misguided because if I go to a friend of mine that loves being a stay at home mom and ask her about entrepreneurship, she's going to go, why would you want to do that, Lisa?
Lisa Brandis: Whereas if I go to a business owner, that's like, how do you manage family and work and not feel guilty? She'll have a different response. To one of my friends that loves. Being a stay at home mom. So I think that internal connection is so important. Yeah. And I
Sara Mayer: think you bring up such an interesting point because I had somebody who was a mentor and he said, whatever answer you want, you'll find it somewhere.
Sara Mayer: Yeah, absolutely. And basically, [00:22:00] if you want somebody to talk, he would say, if you want somebody to talk you out of doing this, you'll find somebody you'll do that. And if you want somebody to talk you into doing this, you'll find somebody to do that. And I just love that you really talk about tapping into your inner self, because I don't think that any of these people who we seek advice from or counsel from come at it from how can I totally mess this up or how can I mess with them or anything like that, but they all come at it from their own lens and their own experience.
Sara Mayer: And so there is wisdom in mentorship and seeking others, but I still go back to, you truly have to know yourself in order to sift through that advice.
Lisa Brandis: Yeah. And I know for me, when I first went on the journey of Reiki, it was like permission to get to know myself, but I didn't necessarily know who I wanted to be.
Lisa Brandis: So it was not only, and funny because in my job, I wore all these masks. I was an actor. I [00:23:00] had to dress up as Captain Starlight, I had the cape and and as time went on, the more I started on the Reiki path, the more I started on. Understanding who I am and who I want to be and getting to create and mold myself also based on, admiring people around me, mentors that came in that I just, one teacher just had a value of kindness and I watched kindness play out in her life.
Lisa Brandis: And I watched how she would just see a customer come in the shop and, compliment her with real love. And kindness. And I'm like, I want that, like that became my inherited value then, because I went, I want to be more kind to myself and others. And when you see so to me, I've been on this journey of always growing and always evolving and wanting to be yeah, I guess we're not these fixed human beings.
Lisa Brandis: And isn't that amazing that, my husband had leukemia as well. So got married, had two kids, pregnant with my second daughter, Hannah. And Gerald gets [00:24:00] diagnosed with acute myeloid leukemia. Now, remember my history of starlight, I went into major meltdown and he was just like, Oh, is this something I'll have to deal with the rest of my life?
Lisa Brandis: He had no idea. And he was a bit, he was a bit blase about the whole thing and just used humor, which was. Unusual. Cause all the nurses are like, does he understand the severity of what's actually happening here? I'm like, I don't know. But we leaned on spiritual practices, Reiki. He listened to Wayne Dyer.
Lisa Brandis: I don't know if you know who he is, but and Gerald's Gerald, he didn't fight the fight of cancer. So a lot of people talk about the battle and having to go into battle and fight the hard fight. And Gerald and I discuss it quite often because. He said he just surrendered to it and a gift in him in his leukemia was that he hated his job and it took him off the grid and allowed him time to not work to go.
Lisa Brandis: Who am I? What do I want? It's the [00:25:00] same thing that I had when I learned Reiki. I started creating who I wanted to be and deciding who I wanted to be. He did the same thing through leukemia and then he made a decision to change careers, which is huge as a, and it was not easy because we're at one income.
Lisa Brandis: We had two babies. Yeah. I was just doing it as a hobby. And then he's just I'm going to change job, labor. He was a sales rep with a company car, mobile phone, and. Literally everyone's saying, don't do it. You're crazy. Keep the money, work for the money. And he just knew inherently within himself, I have to do this.
Lisa Brandis: Like this job's killing me, literally killing me. And he made a full recovery. Now he's. 13, sorry, 16 years in remission now and it never came, so we, we absolutely have deep respect for those that, and like your brother Sarah, I'm so sorry he didn't make it. Is that right? Yeah. [00:26:00] He
Sara Mayer: passed away when he was 20.
Lisa Brandis: Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that's devastating to have that loss in your life. But yeah, it's just, it's, and I'm sorry you had to go through that, but on the other side of it is it taught me about life on the other side as well and how to still have and make connections with those that have transitioned and passed over because love never dies.
Lisa Brandis: They do in the physical, but the energy carries forth and we can still connect with them, which is part of what I teach in the intuitive side of Reiki.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. I just, you're, I could talk to you all day about your journey and your life. If someone's listening right now and they know that they've lost their way or their self or they're struggling, or they even like your husband who was on a journey that wasn't easy.
Sara Mayer: Where he wanted to be going what would you suggest they do to start to really tap into their true self?
Lisa Brandis: Do you know, [00:27:00] to me, it's, you have to slow down life. You have to stop, you have to stop the hustle because, and that's what, that is why so many people make radical changes when they get a diagnosis that's terminal, especially or a significant health crisis, they stop. They stopped working. They stopped.
Lisa Brandis: And I'm not saying everyone can do that. Obviously when it becomes critical, they have motivation to change. So we don't have to wait until life becomes so critical that we change, do it like I did in the graceful, gentle way. Like I just. Was curious. I learned a modality that, that basically is set up as a foundation to teach you how to lean into more happiness and self love.
Lisa Brandis: So the practices and the tools that I have in my training, and I have it all as self paced online training. So no matter where you are in the world, you can learn through my Reiki course. And then you take it, you take what you learn online and apply it. In [00:28:00] person with your loved ones, you practice Reiki, Reiki automatically slows us down, but gives us, it gives our minds something to be doing.
Lisa Brandis: That's why so many people that have very active minds and mind goes crazy. Like I've got a very busy mind. Meditation was really difficult, but when I was doing Reiki, my mind had something to think about and to focus on, which was the other person, not myself. Which is the first tip is that when we're doing something for others, we automatically heal because we get to put all our stuff down.
Lisa Brandis: And when we do, and we're tapping into that energy, which is a foundation of love ideas and inspiration for us and them come through. And that begins this gentle kind of self inquiry. And we start to work out how we can easily make changes in our life that don't really rock the boat. Over time, because we want to create sustainable change that lean, leans us into more happiness.
Lisa Brandis: And that [00:29:00] has a ripple effect in your whole community. It has a ripple effect in your family for yourself. And it is as simple as having that intention and that desire to, as women, especially put ourselves first. And when we fill our own cup, the cup then runneth over and we have more to give from a and the, and energy when you tap into it is it expands with love and positivity versus contraction with.
Lisa Brandis: fear and negativity. So when we start leaning in, the changes happen gracefully, if that makes sense. They don't come from coming from a battle. They're not coming from a fight. They're not coming from smashing at our gym. They're coming from this place of He's in grace and you're every cell in your body is geared towards well being.
Lisa Brandis: Yeah. Oh gosh, I'm sorry. I could go on and on. No.
Sara Mayer: It's great. I could listen to you all day
Lisa Brandis: trying to pack 20 years into half an hour. It's very [00:30:00] difficult. Yeah but just get on the journey and we'll grow with you in independently as you make the decisions based on what you want. And it's as simple as that and having support from the community.
Lisa Brandis: I've got a beautiful community of heart based, lightworkers and healers that love getting in and just helping the newbies as they're on the journey beginning because we've all been there. Yeah.
Sara Mayer: And I think the one really cool thing you brought up was like combating the hustle culture, I think so often and pounding it out at the gym and just getting all these things done.
Sara Mayer: And I think it's really What I loved about your message was that it's tapping into what you truly want and who you truly are. And so much of that hustle culture that's put on our plates or pushed in our face from society, it causes us to get away from that. And
Lisa Brandis: so much and I think, I look at people that are.
Lisa Brandis: They wait and [00:31:00] come to Reiki when the kids have left the house and they're empty nesters and they're like, Oh, now what, or they've got the house, got the boat, got the marriage, got the two kids and they're not fulfilled and they're like, hang on a minute, like society gave me this promise that if I had all the clothes, all the things, All the money in the bank.
Lisa Brandis: I'd be happy. And they're like, you look at spiritual communities where it fosters on connection and helping one another. They thrive and they don't have a lot of stuff. Yeah. And I think. We look at some of Nepal and some of these other cultures where they're not working and grinding, that they're out playing and they're kicking footies and they're helping each other.
Lisa Brandis: It's a,
Sara Mayer: I think about the people when I was working a lot with people in Ireland and England, they'd be like, I'm on holiday for six weeks. I'm like, Okay. Bye. Bye. What? What? What are we doing here? I get one week vacation when I was in corporate America, they could not believe it. One week.
Sara Mayer: One week.
Lisa Brandis: They can strike me at four.
Sara Mayer: Yeah. One [00:32:00] week. Oh, yeah.
Lisa Brandis: Oh, my gosh. Yeah. We only just recently had the shops open on Sundays because it's only been a couple of years in Australia that, we always had Sundays, all the shops were closed and now people are going and we're doing our food shopping on a Sunday.
Lisa Brandis: Whereas we would be. Hanging out, doing whatever, going out and doing fun stuff.
Sara Mayer: Again, I could talk to you all day if somebody's listening and this is really resonating with them, how might they get in touch with you and start doing this work? What could they
Lisa Brandis: expect? I have two free offers.
Lisa Brandis: One is for those that are really wanting to dive into the spiritual psychic development, which is a learn to channel quiz. And I've also got a a Reiki guide free Reiki guide that you can get off my website. So if you go to. Intuitive reiki.com au. So check the au on the end. Yeah. You'll be able to find, yeah, find my website and lots of information on there.
Lisa Brandis: And I'm on all the social [00:33:00] media, so intuitive Reiki on Facebook and Insta, and I've just started on TikTok. That's a bit of fun. . Oh, TikTok.
Sara Mayer: My dog's on TikTok, oh, really? Oh, I love that. Yeah, she does quite well on TikTok.
Lisa Brandis: How do you, what do you do with your dog on TikTok?
Sara Mayer: Oh, today we went to a mall that they're going to tear down and we did a walk in the mall and that was quite popular.
Sara Mayer: We did a lot of training in the mall. We, they turned the escalators off. So we don't have stairs where I live. So she's not real good at stairs. So we practice going up and down stairs and yeah.
Lisa Brandis: Oh, that's fun. I've got a Kelpie puppy, which has been keeping me very busy. . Oh, there
Sara Mayer: you go, .
Lisa Brandis: Yeah.
Lisa Brandis: Yeah. It's 11 months now
Sara Mayer: oh, you have a lot of work to do, . Yes.
Lisa Brandis: Yes.
Sara Mayer: Cool. Thank you. Yeah, it's been such a great conversation, and I'll go ahead and link that in the show notes and. Again, I could talk to you all day. I think this is just fascinating. And I [00:34:00] think so many business owners right now and women in general are just really looking at February and thinking, how am I going to get all this done?
Lisa Brandis: Yeah. And sometimes when we create a bit of space, it opens up creative intuition and then ideas flow that make life easier, I think. And that's what we're looking for. Yeah.
Sara Mayer: Great. Thank you so much for being on the show. Okay. Bold goal crushers. It's time to get out there and get to it because you can accomplish your goals without working double time.
Sara Mayer: Thank you for tuning into the bold goal crusher podcast where we crush goals and everything that gets in the way. I always love to support my community.
Sara Mayer: I look forward to seeing you crush your goals this year.[00:35:00]
